Robert Marines Harvey (1882-1916)
Item
Dublin Core
Type
Title
Robert Marines Harvey (1882-1916)
Contributor
Date
1915
Publisher
Wyndham City Libraries
Format
text
Language
eng
World War One Veterans Item Type Metadata
Name
Robert Marines Harvey
Birth Date
Birthplace
Service Number
2503
Enlistment Date
Next of Kin
Mrs Mary Harvey
Wife
Wife
Address at time of Enlistment
Somerville Road,
West Footscray, Victoria
West Footscray, Victoria
Occupation
Marital Status
Married
Death Date
Place of Burial
No known grave.
VC Corner Australian Cemetery and Memorial,
Fromelles, Lille, Nord Pas de Calais, France
VC Corner Australian Cemetery and Memorial,
Fromelles, Lille, Nord Pas de Calais, France
Biographical Text
No.2503 Sergeant Robert Marines Harvey
Robert Marines Harvey was born at sea on the 26 August 1882 to William and Grace Harvey (nee Watson). They were travelling from England to Australia on the ship Corona. Robert had four brothers:
Robert married Mary Jane Iverson in 1901 in Victoria and they had four children:
[Jane (Robert’s sister) married Robert Swalwell in 1908, who also enlisted in the army in WW1 and was killed in action on 3 May 1917].
War Service
Robert enlisted into the Army at Melbourne, Victoria on 29 May 1915. He was 33 years and 10 months and he was 5 feet seven and a half inches tall. Robert weighed ten stone and two pounds with a chest measurement of thirty five to thirty seven inches. His complexion was fresh, with brown eyes and black hair. He had a tattoo on his right forearm. His next of kin was listed as his wife, Mrs Mary Harvey of Somerville Road, West Footscray, Victoria. All of this was recorded at the time of his enlistment.
He was a member of the Footscray Rifle Club and was part of the Garrison artillery for over a year. Robert joined 6th Battalion at Lemnos on 31 October 1915. He disembarked at Alexandria, ex-Lemnos, 7 January 1916 (general Gallipoli evacuation), he then transferred to 58th Battalion on 17 February 1916. He was promoted to Corporal at Tel el Kebir on 22 February 1916 and then Sergeant, Ferry Post on 15 May 1916. He embarked at Alexandria to join the British Expeditionary Force, 17 June 1916; and disembarked Marseilles, France, 23 June 1916.
He was posted as missing on the 19 July 1916. A Court of Enquiry was held in the field on 1 September 1917, with the pronounced fate as 'Killed in Action, 19 July 1916'. [Note on B.103, 'buried in vicinity of Fleurbaix'.
Statement: Red Cross File No 5099968, 2717 Pte J.R. McCormick, 58th Battalion, 6 December 1916: "We went over the top about ten minutes to seven in the evening at Fleurbaix, and when we had got about 50 yds. out in No Man's Land, I saw Sgt. Harvey killed by M.G. Fire (sic). We had to retire but it was very difficult getting back, the firing being so heavy, and I was myself out all night. I do not know anything about Sgt. Harvey's body being got in or about his burial.'
Second statement: 3144A J. SALT, 58th Bn, C Company, 58th Bn (patient, 3rd Southern General Hospital, Oxford, England), 12 February 1917: "I knew Sergt Harvey (58. A.) attached Grenadiers. All the Grenadiers know that he was killed on July 19th out in No Man's Land during the charge at Fromelles. The German lines were 500 yards from us, and we only got as far as their wire, and then we came back".
Third statement: 2228 Pte S.S. ROBERTSON, 58th Battalion (patient, No 1 Australian General Hospital, Rouen), 26 February 1917: "He belonged to A. Coy. We went over that Evening (sic). The attack was an utter failure, our Casualties (sic) being very heavy. I saw him lying out in "No Man's Land," wounded. I passed close to him, and as I passed he waved his arm. I know no more".
Fourth statement: 2412 Pte M. O'CONNOR, 58th Battalion, 1 March 1917: "He was my Grenade Sgt. in A. Co. team. On 19.7.16 he went over in the charge from [the] same bay as my self (sic) and I cannot give any details after I got htm but up to that time I remember him giving an order that was about 250 yards from our starting point; I was hit about 50 yards further on. Sgt. Harvey was still going then[;] I am sorry this is all I can say with certainty ... "
Robert officially was killed in action on the 19 July 1916 at Fleurbaix, France (Battle of Fromelles) aged 35. There is no known grave for burial but there is commemoration plaque for him at V.C. Corner (Panel No 13), Australian Cemetery Memorial, Fromelles, France.
Robert's father, William Harvey received a letter from Private R. A. Raine which provided him with a brief account of his son's last moments, it was dated 26 May 1917 from France and is saved in his army records. Private Raine’s words at the end of the letter said, "though perhaps nothing will compensate you for the loss of your son it may be some little consolation for you Sir to know that your son was held in high esteem by all the men in his Company and he died like a HERO".
A notice was published in the Melbourne newspaper regarding Roberts death:
HARVEY. – Killed in action (previously reported missing) 19th July, 1916, Sergeant R.M. Harvey, second son of Mr. and Mrs. W. Harvey, of no. 27 Kent Street, Yarraville, brother of John (now active service), Archibald, Mrs.R.Swalwell, Mrs J. Bryant, Mrs A.Osborne, Sarah, Elizabeth, Georgina, and Willie Harvey, aged 35 years. Died doing his duty.
The Argus, 22 September 1917, p.13
Medal and Entitlements
[received by his wife]
Robert Marines Harvey was born at sea on the 26 August 1882 to William and Grace Harvey (nee Watson). They were travelling from England to Australia on the ship Corona. Robert had four brothers:
- John
- George
- Archibald (Captain)
- William Matthew
- Jane
- Grace
- Catherine Ann
- Elizabeth
- Georgina
Robert married Mary Jane Iverson in 1901 in Victoria and they had four children:
- William Robert - born 1902
- Grace Elizabeth - born 1903
- Stanley - born 1907
- Georgina (Gina) Marines - born 1910
[Jane (Robert’s sister) married Robert Swalwell in 1908, who also enlisted in the army in WW1 and was killed in action on 3 May 1917].
War Service
Robert enlisted into the Army at Melbourne, Victoria on 29 May 1915. He was 33 years and 10 months and he was 5 feet seven and a half inches tall. Robert weighed ten stone and two pounds with a chest measurement of thirty five to thirty seven inches. His complexion was fresh, with brown eyes and black hair. He had a tattoo on his right forearm. His next of kin was listed as his wife, Mrs Mary Harvey of Somerville Road, West Footscray, Victoria. All of this was recorded at the time of his enlistment.
He was a member of the Footscray Rifle Club and was part of the Garrison artillery for over a year. Robert joined 6th Battalion at Lemnos on 31 October 1915. He disembarked at Alexandria, ex-Lemnos, 7 January 1916 (general Gallipoli evacuation), he then transferred to 58th Battalion on 17 February 1916. He was promoted to Corporal at Tel el Kebir on 22 February 1916 and then Sergeant, Ferry Post on 15 May 1916. He embarked at Alexandria to join the British Expeditionary Force, 17 June 1916; and disembarked Marseilles, France, 23 June 1916.
He was posted as missing on the 19 July 1916. A Court of Enquiry was held in the field on 1 September 1917, with the pronounced fate as 'Killed in Action, 19 July 1916'. [Note on B.103, 'buried in vicinity of Fleurbaix'.
Statement: Red Cross File No 5099968, 2717 Pte J.R. McCormick, 58th Battalion, 6 December 1916: "We went over the top about ten minutes to seven in the evening at Fleurbaix, and when we had got about 50 yds. out in No Man's Land, I saw Sgt. Harvey killed by M.G. Fire (sic). We had to retire but it was very difficult getting back, the firing being so heavy, and I was myself out all night. I do not know anything about Sgt. Harvey's body being got in or about his burial.'
Second statement: 3144A J. SALT, 58th Bn, C Company, 58th Bn (patient, 3rd Southern General Hospital, Oxford, England), 12 February 1917: "I knew Sergt Harvey (58. A.) attached Grenadiers. All the Grenadiers know that he was killed on July 19th out in No Man's Land during the charge at Fromelles. The German lines were 500 yards from us, and we only got as far as their wire, and then we came back".
Third statement: 2228 Pte S.S. ROBERTSON, 58th Battalion (patient, No 1 Australian General Hospital, Rouen), 26 February 1917: "He belonged to A. Coy. We went over that Evening (sic). The attack was an utter failure, our Casualties (sic) being very heavy. I saw him lying out in "No Man's Land," wounded. I passed close to him, and as I passed he waved his arm. I know no more".
Fourth statement: 2412 Pte M. O'CONNOR, 58th Battalion, 1 March 1917: "He was my Grenade Sgt. in A. Co. team. On 19.7.16 he went over in the charge from [the] same bay as my self (sic) and I cannot give any details after I got htm but up to that time I remember him giving an order that was about 250 yards from our starting point; I was hit about 50 yards further on. Sgt. Harvey was still going then[;] I am sorry this is all I can say with certainty ... "
Robert officially was killed in action on the 19 July 1916 at Fleurbaix, France (Battle of Fromelles) aged 35. There is no known grave for burial but there is commemoration plaque for him at V.C. Corner (Panel No 13), Australian Cemetery Memorial, Fromelles, France.
Robert's father, William Harvey received a letter from Private R. A. Raine which provided him with a brief account of his son's last moments, it was dated 26 May 1917 from France and is saved in his army records. Private Raine’s words at the end of the letter said, "though perhaps nothing will compensate you for the loss of your son it may be some little consolation for you Sir to know that your son was held in high esteem by all the men in his Company and he died like a HERO".
A notice was published in the Melbourne newspaper regarding Roberts death:
HARVEY. – Killed in action (previously reported missing) 19th July, 1916, Sergeant R.M. Harvey, second son of Mr. and Mrs. W. Harvey, of no. 27 Kent Street, Yarraville, brother of John (now active service), Archibald, Mrs.R.Swalwell, Mrs J. Bryant, Mrs A.Osborne, Sarah, Elizabeth, Georgina, and Willie Harvey, aged 35 years. Died doing his duty.
The Argus, 22 September 1917, p.13
Medal and Entitlements
[received by his wife]
- Victory Medal - 14 December 1922
- 1914/15 Star - 30 July 1920
- British War Medal - 12 August 1921
- Memorial Scroll - 20 August 1921
- Memorial Plaque - 11 September 1922
Bibliography
War Records
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au
http://www.awm.gov.au/people/roll-search/roll_of_honour/
http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/index.html
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/721189/HARVEY,%20ROBERT%20MARINES
Family Records
http://search.ancestry.com.au
Trove
Harvard/Australian citation
1917 'Family Notices.', The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957), 22 September, p. 13, viewed 13 October, 2014, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1651073
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au
http://www.awm.gov.au/people/roll-search/roll_of_honour/
http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/index.html
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/721189/HARVEY,%20ROBERT%20MARINES
Family Records
http://search.ancestry.com.au
Trove
Harvard/Australian citation
1917 'Family Notices.', The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957), 22 September, p. 13, viewed 13 October, 2014, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1651073
Medals and Entitlements
1914-15 Star
British War Medal
Victory Medal
Collection
Citation
“Robert Marines Harvey (1882-1916),” Wyndham History, accessed November 30, 2023, http://www.wyndhamhistory.net.au/items/show/1690.
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